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A place to discuss everyone's favourite use of grapes.

Any recommendations or resources post them up.

Laithwaites are a good alternative to supermarkets and reasonably priced. You can pay a one off fee for unlimited delivery through the year which is worth it if you make more than 3 purchases.

I've found naked wines are also pretty good.

iOS users should also check out vivino - a wine review app that recognises wines by the label.

So what are you all drinking? And are you mixing with Cola?

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It's probably worth ordering a few mixed or mystery cases from one of the online retailers

I've had a few and you get stuff you wouldn't normally pick and get to retry new things.

This has taught me that I don't really like Australian reds but do like Austrian red

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Vivino is a great app

One thing to watch out for on Italian wines, is a little label that reads either DOC or DOCG

DOC has certain stipulations about the wine that should mean theoretically a good wine however DOCG the extra G is for guarantee and means that the wine is guaranteed to be a certain quality and it can be a good indicator when browsing supermarket shelves

Also, the best wine in the world is Brunello di Montalcino

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I have quite a few whites that I buy, but when it comes to red it's practically impossible for me to buy anything other than this incredible monastrell from Juan Gil:

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It's amazing. They sell it at the shop round the corner from me for £9, and worth every penny. You can buy it online here too: http://www.aitkenwines.com/item/Brand_All-Wines_Juan-Gil-4-Meses-Monastrell-Jumilla-Spain_17_0_478_0.html

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There is a Tempranillo (same grape as Rioja) in Aldi called Torro Rosso and for the money its a stunner, better than plenty of £10+ bottle and costs less than £4

https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/product-range/drinks/wine-cellar/red-wine/red-wine-product-detail-page/ps/p/toro-loco-tempranillo/

We drink lots of Red, I would like to get back into White so recommend away - nothing to sweet or dry!

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My favourites from Virgin:

Perez Cruz Winemakers Selection and La Higuera Block:

https://www.virginwines.co.uk/AST/wines/PRD~C05754/Perez-Cruz-Winemaker%27s-Selection-2013.jsp

https://www.virginwines.co.uk/AST/wines/PRD~C06631/Perez-Cruz-Single-Vineyard-La-Higuera-Block-2013.jsp

The Passage Shiraz:

https://www.virginwines.co.uk/AST/wines/PRD~C07756/The-Passage-Reserve-Coonawarra-Shiraz-2013.jsp

Those three can be had for around a tenner if you pay a certain amount a month in.

I got 12 bottles of this:

https://www.virginwines.co.uk/AST/wines/PRD~C06747/La-Traversee-2012.jsp

for half price but they can't match that again. It's a shame because it's lovely and I've almost run out.

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There is a Tempranillo (same grape as Rioja) in Aldi called Torro Rosso and for the money its a stunner, better than plenty of £10+ bottle and costs less than £4

https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/product-range/drinks/wine-cellar/red-wine/red-wine-product-detail-page/ps/p/toro-loco-tempranillo/

You mean Toro Loco ;) but yes, it's lovely. My wife got tipped off on that one by a wine merchant who said pretty much the same thing.

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I love the Kooliburra wines from Aldi. Absolutely delicious and only £4 or so.

I don't believe there's any relationship between flavour & price when it comes to wine. And if there is I'm happier with my uneducated palete.

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There is a Tempranillo (same grape as Rioja) in Aldi called Torro Rosso

I find that one goes really well with Vodka or Jagermeister. I can't drink a lot of it before bed though, I just can't sleep then.

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I love the Kooliburra wines from Aldi. Absolutely delicious and only £4 or so.

I don't believe there's any relationship between flavour & price when it comes to wine. And if there is I'm happier with my uneducated palete.

Well, there is a relationship, but it's a tenuous one. The price is governed by all sorts of factors. A more expensive wine is more likely to be decent than a cheap one, but that's the best you can say really, and you are always the best judge of what you like.

I know Angela Mount, and she picked that Aldi Toro Loco as a bargain a while back, along with some other bargains under £7 here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2193346/You-CAN-good-wine-7.html

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I guess the (very) few times I've experimented with paying more than a tenner I've been disappointed.

Once I find a cheap one I like I tend to stick with it. Sometimes they don't have the Kooliburra at Aldi and the random alternative hasn't been to my taste at all. I've had the Toro Loco one though and I liked it.

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You mean Toro Loco ;) but yes, it's lovely. My wife got tipped off on that one by a wine merchant who said pretty much the same thing.

I find that one goes really well with Vodka or Jagermeister. I can't drink a lot of it before bed though, I just can't sleep then.

Ha!

No idea why I went for international Red Bull there..

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I have quite a few whites that I buy, but when it comes to red it's practically impossible for me to buy anything other than this incredible monastrell from Juan Gil:

00tzb67oqsr6b_375x500.jpg

It's amazing. They sell it at the shop round the corner from me for £9, and worth every penny. You can buy it online here too: http://www.aitkenwines.com/item/Brand_All-Wines_Juan-Gil-4-Meses-Monastrell-Jumilla-Spain_17_0_478_0.html

Do you mean the actual Aitken shop in Dundee? They are about 2 minutes away from me so I'll be getting a bottle of this at the weekend I think...

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What do you guys generally do in restaurants? I'm usually utterly lost in French places. If its Italian and you see a Montepulciano de Abruzzo its normally a good bet. Hungarian, if you like white get a Tokai.

More specific recommendations:

http://www.gnarlyhead.com/wines/cabernet-sauvignon.html

This is fantastic if you looking for a good Cabernet Sauvignon.

http://www.oldbridgewine.co.uk/shop/product-details/enamore-renacer

This is probably the most interesting blend I've had in recent years. If you see it get it.

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I don't often order French wine in restaurants, personally. I don't know why, I think it must be a reverse snobbery. If I don't know the wine already and they have a good Italian selection I just go for whatever is from Puglia, they are usually the best.

Having said that, I also always look for a gewurztraminer or grune veltliner, if they have one on the list it's generally decent as whoever is picking the wine will be a bit more thoughtful.

EDIT: And I always ask the waiter / waitress which ones they like on the list too. If it's a decent place and they know the wines they will rarely steer you wrong.

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What do you guys generally do in restaurants? I'm usually utterly lost in French places. If its Italian and you see a Montepulciano de Abruzzo its normally a good bet. Hungarian, if you like white get a Tokai.

More specific recommendations:

http://www.gnarlyhead.com/wines/cabernet-sauvignon.html

This is fantastic if you looking for a good Cabernet Sauvignon.

http://www.oldbridgewine.co.uk/shop/product-details/enamore-renacer

This is probably the most interesting blend I've had in recent years. If you see it get it.

I usually order the house if there's nothing I recognise. It's usually decent if they have any idea what they are doing.

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Need to get more on order there Heirophant.

Yes I have been trying to save money and haven't been replacing as much as I should. I have some fantastic claret that is drinking well now and some Beaune that I shall have at Christmas but I should really be lining up replacements.

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I've tried to drink a bit less by not always having about 50 bottles in the flat, but all that's happened is that I've got almost no decent wine left.

The wine on the left (Ie bottom of the picture) is the plonk. Circa £8-10 a bottle generally and is what we mostly drink. The rest is £15+ a bottle and (with the exception of the fizz) has been put away for a while. Probably up to 10 years which I dip into over time. I have replaced that stock as much in the last two years as I should have done. And there is more Aussie and NZ than there was and less French.

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As much as I'd like to do something like this, I just couldn't - it'd all get drunk without question and none of this "save it for a special occasion" stuff would stop it. I fucking love wine. I may also have a problem.

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As much as I'd like to do something like this, I just couldn't - it'd all get drunk without question and none of this "save it for a special occasion" stuff would stop it. I fucking love wine. I may also have a problem.

Well the secret is to buy stuff to lay down and stuff drink anytime. You then store the stuff to lay down in a more inaccessible place than the everyday wine (that is extremely important). Also if you can buy multiple bottles at a time you can dip in to the good stuff occasionally.

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