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So to battle corruption in games journalism and to have more transparency, they want completely unfair and biased 'reviews' which will only ever be favourable if they're reviewed by fans of the game? Also, what happens with new IP? Does no one review it until someone decides they're a fan?

Is "review" another word they don't really understand then?

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So to battle corruption in games journalism and to have more transparency, they want completely unfair and biased 'reviews' which will only ever be favourable if they're reviewed by fans of the game? Also, what happens with new IP? Does no one review it until someone decides they're a fan?

Is "review" another word they don't really understand then?

The thing is, there's a certain logic to having reviewers who know a lot about a genre reviewing a game: no point in me reviewing a fighting game for example, I enjoy them from time to time but lack an in-depth knowledge of the genre and its state-of-the-art, I only know if a game in that genre feels fun to play (Mortal Kombat) or not (SFxTekken, ugh). Lots of mainstream outlets only review strategy games when a Civ or a Total War comes out, which are the closest thing strategy has to a AAA blockbuster. They give glowing reviews because their reviewers don't have much experience of strategy games, even if (as is the case with both series) their most recent entries are rather lacking in certain aspects compared to less well-known competitors.

But this idea is so completely hatstand that I don't even know where to begin. They don't seem to know what a review is meant to be.

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Yeah I totally get that, I think it was PC Zone that did it like that, I still remember David McCandless (IIRC) was always Mr. FPS and you knew if he like an FPS, it was going to be OK. Or if on here, Gerbik is giving his thoughts on a stealth game, I know he knows a good stealth game...but I was just being extra silly as I don't think they even mean it like that.

If anything, I really dislike it when a mag (lol) or a website has reviewers that don't know the history of a genre or something like that and think... erm... I dunno, Deus Ex Human Revolution was an amazing cyberpunk-y RPG because they never played the originals, or played System Shock or something but again, that's clearly not what they're suggesting.

The whole business about a review shouldn't have anything in it apart from scores for graphics, sound and playability like it's TOTAL! magazine from the 90's or something that they came up with ages ago is just idiotic.

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I once played David McCandles at Doom, with that dial-in system that would emulate an IPX network over a modem. I lost 50-1.

Anyway, it's not an unreasonable idea, but it is nice to get both perspectives. Although, ultimately, I'd rather the opinion of a spread of people on here, which amounts to the same concept.

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totalbiscuit is quintupuling down on his dumbarseholishness. The president of Blizzard took the stage at Blizzcon to denouce the 'gaters.... The response from them seems to be 'well he wasn't talking about us, just some other group going around harrassing people en masse'. For TB, well: https://twitter.com/CranBoonitz/status/530804155490000896

Also TotalBiscuit thinks Islam has a flag?

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Maybe it's just an artefact of my particular reading habits, but I remember a more specific meaning of "mansplaining" from a while ago where it's about explaining something to a qualified technical peer that she already knows very well, just because she's a woman. Particularly when she's clearly more qualified on the subject than the mansplainer.

That was more useful in the sense of "pay attention to your subconscious biases in assuming knowledge".

This is how I've always understood it. A bit off-topic, but an example that's always stuck in my mind is a post that Claire Boucher (i.e. Grimes) made on her blog complaining about the men who would approach her and offer to help with her music:

I’m tired of men who aren’t professional or even accomplished musicians continually offering to ‘help me out’ (without being asked), as if i did this by accident and i’m gonna flounder without them. or as if the fact that I’m a woman makes me incapable of using technology. I have never seen this kind of thing happen to any of my male peers

I can't even imagine how infuriating this would be. For those who aren't familiar with Grimes' music, try and imagine some dork approaching Jimi Hendrix and offering to explain frets to him, to get an idea of the levels of idiocy and condescension involved here.

(This thread's amazing by the way. I've been following the gamergate stuff on and off on a couple of forums, and it's just been plain depressing to see the number of people apparently swept up in it. This thread has been a helpful reminder that the gaming community isn't made up entirely of rabid delinquents.)

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Just saw this amazing post titled 'Well It's Been A Good Run' on a gamergate forum.

A lot has happened over the last week within Gamergate and it has helped me come to a decision. With all the infighting and backstabbing going on within Gamergate I have decided to step back behind the curtain. I myself have been attacked by people within Gamergate and to the extent that they called my employment about me. I was willing to fight tooth and claw for this consumer revolt, but I cannot be apart of a movement that resorts to tactics that the opposition is using if they don't agree with what I have to say. What information myself and others have gathered has been given to what is left of the respectable sources within Gamergate. I wish everyone the best of luck and maybe Gamergate can turn this around, however unlikely. Well it looks like it is time for this clown to bow out. Good luck everyone.

He becomes a victim of harassment and doxxing by the very group he supports, famed for it's use of harassment and doxxing, and still blames that on the using the tactics of the opposition. It's just amazing. I mean, how is it possible to function in reality and still think like this?

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I have no idea who most of these people are or why they are supposed to be important.

I couldn't finish that article on total biscuit because fuck, people are spending hours on who said what... About video games.

Is this who the "core" are?

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I have no idea who most of these people are or why they are supposed to be important.

I couldn't finish that article on total biscuit because fuck, people are spending hours on who said what... About video games.

Is this who the "core" are?

It's politics more than anything. Total Biscuit is a big deal, people take his word as gospel. There are quite a few people in my university gaming society who hang on everything he says. I can completely understand why someone would feel like he needs calling out on it when he is basically one of those types you see on American news channels who are allowed to be very opinionated to the point where they earn a celebrity status.

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Are you asking:

Why it's politics?

Why TB is a big deal?

Why people hang on his words?

Why I am socializing with said people?

Why I see why people feel justified in calling TB out?

Or are you asking Why it is he has a celebrity status.

Please tell me which it is as that would clear a lot of confusion.

If your actual question was just "Why?" then allow me to answer.

Why not?

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Are you asking:

Why it's politics?

Why TB is a big deal?

Why people hang on his words?

Why I am socializing with said people?

Why I see why people feel justified in calling TB out?

Or are you asking Why it is he has a celebrity status.

Please tell me which it is as that would clear a lot of confusion.

If your actual question was just "Why?" then allow me to answer.

Why not?

I think you've reasonably identified most of my why questions, where Mr Lots Of Biscuits is concerned. You can maybe skip the first, and if you're at university maybe "why am I socialising with said people": meeting idiots and trying to learn not to call them idiots when they share a common interest is part of being at university.

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Pretty much. It's hard to not get really annoyed though when you post about Total Biscuit comparing calling out gamergate to Islamophobia and get responses like this:

"But that's a fair point. He's pointing out that the radical actions of a few people who go under the name of a movement shouldn't and doesn't represent the majority of the movement."

"It's a valid point. People may start assuming anyone who calls them self a gamer would harass people in this horrible way."

I shouldn't have to point out to them that Islam is not something a person chooses to identify with but is something they are born into. Like come on.

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Uh... What? People can choose to convert to Islam or any other religion at any time.

But as a group the majority of Islam (and most other religions for that matter) are born into families that follow the religion. The option to convert religion as an adult is a moot point when comparing a religion that has existed for thousands of years to a internet group that has existed for 3-4 months.

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